[xcp] Paper on XCP for shared-access links
Filipe Abrantes
fla at inescporto.pt
Fri Jul 14 11:26:51 PDT 2006
Hello Yuri,
Yuri Pradkin wrote:
> Hi, Filipe,
>
> thanks for the link, the paper is very interesting. A few of comments:
>
thanks for taking the time to read it
> 1. It was not very clear from the paper how the upper bound on \chi,
> 1/(5-\alpha-\beta) was derived to guarantee that the queue never
> overflows. I got the impression that it was from a fluid-model
> simulation of a single flow shown in fig 4. My concern is that this
> bound will not hold in case d != rtt, as might be when the traffic is
> a mix of flows with different RTTs.
>
Yes, the bound is derived from analysing the step by step system
variables in the worst case scenario (Fig. 4). It assumes that the flows
receiving the feedback have an rtt = d. If the flows have heterogeneous
rtt's, then we expect d = avg_rtt and we should observe some
compensatory behaviour from different flows (flows with rtt < d reacting
quick to compensate late behaviour of flows with rtt > d), but we
haven't really analysed that situation. In the simulations we have done,
with flows with mixed rtt's [40-370]ms (those in the comparison with TCP
section 4.3), if I remember correctly, queue overflow never occurred.
I should add that this is the worst case scenario which is not too
common, and that the queue peak decreases exponentially with the initial
over-estimation. Initial over-estimation in the worst-case is \chi*q_max/d.
> 2. I thought it might be desirable to preserve continuity in the
> feedback function F in order to avoid oscillations and perhaps make
> analysis more tractable. Have you considered having F increase
> gradually with time from 0 to something if q=0 && dq/dt=0? I guess
> Your "Late reaction" idea comes close to that.
>
Oscillations between the two modes is one of the weakest points in xcp-b
in my opinion, as the equilibrium point (full utilization) is too thin.
We may have too many oscillations when arrival of flows is more
dynamic. What you propose may be a good idea. I had thought of
exponentially adapting F to F_max (\chi*Q_max/d) after under utilization
has been detected. For example F_max/8, F_max/4, F_max/2, F_max in the
subsequent intervals, but I haven't yet tried it. I expect this to
produce lower queue peaks in scenarios of more dynamic arrival of flows.
> 3. Re your queue frequency response analysis (fig3), there's been a
> more rigorous analysis of XCP stability in "Stability Analysis of
> Explicit Congestion Control Protocols" by Hamsa Balakrishnan.
>
I will look into it. Thanks for the reference.
(is some text missing above in "3.Re your..."?)
> 4. After we switched to "X" in packet headers in place of throughput
> (and X can be thought of as inter-packet time), I've been on and off
> thinking about recasting the whole XCP calculations in the time
> domain. Presumably the queue controller will have to use MAC idle
> time instead of (C - input_bw). I've never got around to finishing
> this line of thought, but it just seems it might be related to the
> whole capacity estimation problem.
>
Yep, measuring MAC idle time and assigning it a bandwidth value based
the average bandwidth of the MAC busy time would be another option. I
think it becomes trickier when you think of mesh or ad-hoc scenarios, as
you may have to track the number of active stations and maybe other
stuff. It sort of becomes technology dependent too. I liked this
approach of not caring too much in the details of the underlying
technology, other than assuming it provides a fair random access.
Filipe
> -Yuri
>
> On Monday 10 July 2006 11:52, Filipe Abrantes wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've been working on an approach to the problem of using XCP in
>>links where the capacity is unknown (e.g. 802.11), and , eventually,
>>I have put it into paper which is now available to the community in:
>>
>>http://portal.acm.org/affiliated/citation.cfm?id=1140086.1140091&col
>>l=ACM&dl=ACM&idx=1140086&part=periodical&WantType=periodical&title=AC
>>M%20SIGCOMM%20Computer%20Communication%20Review&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN
>>=6184618
>>
>>(pdf direct link)
>>http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigcomm/ccr/archive/2006/july/p29-v36n3f-abr
>>antes.pdf or
>>http://pong.inescn.pt/~fabrantes/xcpb.pdf
>>
>>I would be happy if this paper would help trigger the discussion on
>>this topic, so any comments you may have are most welcome.
>>
>>Filipe
>
>
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