From sabrina@inf.ufsc.br Thu Mar 27 17:50:01 2003 From: sabrina@inf.ufsc.br (sabrina@inf.ufsc.br) Date: Thu Mar 27 17:50:01 2003 Subject: [Ns-edu] More information... Message-ID: <1048789938.3e8343b20b4b8@webmail.inf.ufsc.br> Hello, I´d like to know more information (articles, thesis, papers...) on the use of simulation as a mean of learning/teaching computer networks. I´m a graduate student from Brasil and currently working on an Applet interface to execute ns and analyse its results. I´d also like to know if there are any other projects with the same goal - making an easier, more friendly interface for ns. All help is appreciated. thank you, Sabrina Leandro http://www.ucer.nurcad.ufsc.br Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina - Brasil From sabrina@inf.ufsc.br Sat Mar 29 05:16:40 2003 From: sabrina@inf.ufsc.br (sabrina@inf.ufsc.br) Date: Sat Mar 29 05:16:40 2003 Subject: Enc: Re: [Ns-edu] More information... Message-ID: <1048880854.3e84a6d692ab7@webmail.inf.ufsc.br> Hi, Thank you all for your answers. Just to be clear, I´m not looking for ns documentation or tutorials. We have already been working with ns-2 for almost 2 years and we have a big ns-expert here in our project (after a long long time of headaches and difficulties :) I´m writing a paper about this graphical interface I developed for ns, so I was looking for other papers or studies on the same subject, so that I could compare and analyse them. Thanks S Puangpronpitag, you offered me a a lot of good examples. I already looked up the ns website for more info, but found none. I´ll try google again, maybe my choice for words for the query was wrong. I´ll sure post here as soon as our project is done. It´s basicly an Applet interface to design the network, then the topology information is sent to the webserver through normal HTML POST method. On the server, php scripts treat the information and a TCL script generates the TCL script to be used by ns. After that the user is sent to a page where he/she can analyse the results and download the tcl script and the nam and ns trace files. Also, professor Salvador, I´m interested about your researches. Could you send me some more information, please? Sabrina Leandro http://www.ucer.nurcad.ufsc.br UFSC - Brasil. Citando S Puangpronpitag : > As I can remind, there are a few studies that maybe related with what U > ask (better interface): > - nscript is a java-based graphical editor to create ns scripts > http://www.people.virginia.edu/%7Eec3z/software.html > - web traffic simulation > http://www.net.uni-sb.de/~jw/nsweb/ > - Javis of UCL > http://cs.baylor.edu/%7Edonahoo/NIUNet/javis.html > - Javasim of UIUC > http://javasim.cs.uiuc.edu/ > > a few more.. (need to rummage to my ns2 lit. note, which is not here). > I think U can search from google yourself. > > For ns2 for learning/teaching, check ns2 webpages and search around. U > would find a lot of them. > > BTW, I am also interested in the project to make a better user interface > for ns2. If U have done anything, it would be great to see it. > > HTH, > Nuk > --- > Somnuk P. > --- > http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/nuk > ATM-Multimedia Group, School of Computing. Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK. > Tel: +44(0)113 3436806 Fax: +44(0)113 3435468 > ======================================================== > ** I think & think for months and years ** > ** 99 times, the conclusion is false. ** > ** The hundredth time, I am right! ** > ======================================================== > Albert Einstein > > > > > Hello, > > > > I´d like to know more information (articles, thesis, papers...) on the use > of > > simulation as a mean of learning/teaching computer networks. > > > > I´m a graduate student from Brasil and currently working on an Applet > interface > > to execute ns and analyse its results. > > > > I´d also like to know if there are any other projects with the same goal - > > making an easier, more friendly interface for ns. > > > > All help is appreciated. > > > > thank you, > > Sabrina Leandro > > http://www.ucer.nurcad.ufsc.br > > Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina - Brasil > ----- Finalizar mensagem encaminhada ----- From christos@ISI.EDU Sun Mar 30 05:15:07 2003 From: christos@ISI.EDU (Christos Papadopoulos) Date: Sun Mar 30 05:15:07 2003 Subject: Enc: Re: [Ns-edu] More information... In-Reply-To: <1048880854.3e84a6d692ab7@webmail.inf.ufsc.br> from "sabrina@inf.ufsc.br" at "Mar 28, 3 04:47:34 pm" Message-ID: <200303291332.h2TDWxI23487@boreas.isi.edu> Sabrina, have you looked through the education related material on the ns web page? http://www.isi.edu/nsnam/ns/edu/index.html There you will also find a repository of pre-packaged animations intended for classroom use. NAM has editing capabilities that allows you to graphically create topologies and run them directly from the editor. To use it, run nam and choose "New nam editor" from the file menu. Lastly, we would be very interested to learn how you are using/plan to use ns/nam in education. Hope this helps, Christos. ------------ sabrina@inf.ufsc.br writes: > Hi, > > Thank you all for your answers. > > Just to be clear, I´m not looking for ns documentation or tutorials. We have > already been working with ns-2 for almost 2 years and we have a big ns-expert > here in our project (after a long long time of headaches and difficulties :) > > I´m writing a paper about this graphical interface I developed for ns, so I was > looking for other papers or studies on the same subject, so that I could > compare and analyse them. > > Thanks S Puangpronpitag, you offered me a a lot of good examples. I already > looked up the ns website for more info, but found none. I´ll try google again, > maybe my choice for words for the query was wrong. > > I´ll sure post here as soon as our project is done. It´s basicly an Applet > interface to design the network, then the topology information is sent to the > webserver through normal HTML POST method. On the server, php scripts treat the > information and a TCL script generates the TCL script to be used by ns. > > After that the user is sent to a page where he/she can analyse the results and > download the tcl script and the nam and ns trace files. > > Also, professor Salvador, I´m interested about your researches. Could you send > me some more information, please? > > Sabrina Leandro > http://www.ucer.nurcad.ufsc.br > UFSC - Brasil. > > > Citando S Puangpronpitag : > > > As I can remind, there are a few studies that maybe related with what U > > ask (better interface): > > - nscript is a java-based graphical editor to create ns scripts > > http://www.people.virginia.edu/%7Eec3z/software.html > > - web traffic simulation > > http://www.net.uni-sb.de/~jw/nsweb/ > > - Javis of UCL > > http://cs.baylor.edu/%7Edonahoo/NIUNet/javis.html > > - Javasim of UIUC > > http://javasim.cs.uiuc.edu/ > > > > a few more.. (need to rummage to my ns2 lit. note, which is not here). > > I think U can search from google yourself. > > > > For ns2 for learning/teaching, check ns2 webpages and search around. U > > would find a lot of them. > > > > BTW, I am also interested in the project to make a better user interface > > for ns2. If U have done anything, it would be great to see it. > > > > HTH, > > Nuk > > --- > > Somnuk P. > > --- > > http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/nuk > > ATM-Multimedia Group, School of Computing. Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK. > > Tel: +44(0)113 3436806 Fax: +44(0)113 3435468 > > ======================================================== > > ** I think & think for months and years ** > > ** 99 times, the conclusion is false. ** > > ** The hundredth time, I am right! ** > > ======================================================== > > Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I´d like to know more information (articles, thesis, papers...) on the use > > of > > > simulation as a mean of learning/teaching computer networks. > > > > > > I´m a graduate student from Brasil and currently working on an Applet > > interface > > > to execute ns and analyse its results. > > > > > > I´d also like to know if there are any other projects with the same goal - > > > making an easier, more friendly interface for ns. > > > > > > All help is appreciated. > > > > > > thank you, > > > Sabrina Leandro > > > http://www.ucer.nurcad.ufsc.br > > > Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina - Brasil > > > > > > > > ----- Finalizar mensagem encaminhada ----- > > > > >