From information@stockinfonews.com Mon Oct 1 06:04:40 2001 From: information@stockinfonews.com (information@stockinfonews.com) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 05:04:40 Subject: ADV: Important Stock Tip Message-ID: <731.563150.136878@stockinfonews.com> A smart investor usually keeps a diversified portfolio. When spreading your money into different types of stocks, investors minimize their risk. If one company goes dry, their overall portfolio will remain intact. We can see a clear example of this concept by looking at the recent Internet crash. More than a dozen Internet sector funds have liquidated or merged into other funds. Why? Because when one holding goes bad, many of the rest will follow it down. Diversification is one of the keys to sustain net worth. Similarly, a holdings company will benefit greatly from spreading their money into different areas of business. Tonight we look at a company that is doing just that. By spreading its holdings from fields ranging from transportation to telecom to metallurgy, TTIH will look to maintain a well-balanced portfolio of growing businesses. TTIH plans to maximize value for its shareholders through an aggressive strategy consisting of spin-offs, acquisitions, joint ventures, and more. Continue on by reading a more detailed description of the company and its direction. TTI Holdings of America, Inc. (OTCBB: TTIH) 545 Madison Avenue - 6th Floor New York, NY 10022 516-931-5700 Corporate Summary TTI Holdings of America Corp., formally known as Thermaltec International, Inc., herein after referred to as "TTIH" or the "Company", was incorporated in 1995 in the state of Delaware to engage in the establishment and support of "Thermal Spray Coating Technology." Recently the company changed its name to TTI Holdings of America Corp. to better reflect the direction and strategy of the new focus. TTIH current primary business objective is to develop, merge in, acquire and invest in companies that are under valued privately, but contain vast potential in the public arena. The company has presently obtained or is in the final leg of negotiations with securing companies in the following industry sectors; transportation, telecommunications, healthcare computer networking and software, metallurgy, industrial products, beauty related care products and services. Adelphia Capital, LLC (Member NASD and SIPC) has been retain to utilize its experience in the managing and the restructuring of the company and its subsidiaries, along with their potential mergers and acquisition candidates. Adelphia Capital will make available to the company their entire staff of professional, including the many advisory contacts and strategic partners they have developed. Adelphia has also agreed to assist TTIH in the selection process of appointing additional Board members to better equip the company in its stated mandate. This business alliance brings in an independent and objective point of view that assures quality and due diligence. Company Information Recient Price: $0.55 52 Week Range (Low - High) : $.035 - $3.46 Estimated Float: 1,500,000 Shares Outstanding: 6,100,000 Financial Information Fiscal Year: September 30th Facts To Look At The company has recently declared a spin-off of one of its subsidiaries Panama Industries Inc. Shareholders of record of TTIH as of July 22, 2001 will received one share of Panama Industries for every 3 shares of TTIH owned. The company is now in the process of finishing the required NASD and SEC filings that will complete the transaction in order to create a separate fully trading public company. This transaction allows the Thermal Spraying business in Panama to grow on its own accord, making available additional funding based on a separate public traded entity. Links: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010531/2385.html TTIH is currently preparing to spin off another of its subsidiaries Transventures Inc. Transventures represents TTIH's holdings in the transportation logistics industry. Transventures is in the process of finalizing a joint venture with another public traded transportation logistics company. This company is a full service transportation, shipping, and logistics servicing company that operates out of New Jersey. The company is in final negotiation with Cactus Health Spas. Cactus currently represents 11 beauty day salon spas with sales exceeding 6 million dollars. TTIH plans to license the Cactus Day Spa business mechanism and promote the development of several new units in the near future. These units typically gross between $1 and $2 million dollars per year per location when fully operational, and shall provide a steady stream of cash flow which may assist in capitalizing the company's current business model. TTIH will also, from time to time, invest in "entrepreneurial" companies if it deems such alliances or acquisitions to be in the best interest of its shareholders. Such companies as Cobex Technologies, a telecommunications firm, and Material Shapes Unlimited, an industrial material contouring company are on TTIH horizon for the near future. Links: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010620/2490.html Conclusion TTI Holdings of America Corp. plans to increase its business and enhance shareholder value by acquiring or merging with emerging growth companies, the main core of TTIH future business. TTIH will continue to seek small, dynamic, entrepreneurial companies in other fields. TTIH's policy will be to hold no more than 50% ownership in these entrepreneurial companies and distribute any value over 50% to its shareholders directly. This strategy makes the company an equity distribution play for its shareholders in the up and coming months. For further information contact the company @ (212) 759-8899 Disclaimer: Advanced Networking Group is an independent research firm and has been compensated for this research report. The information contained herein has been obtained from sources, which are believed to be reliable, but the accuracy or completeness of the contents cannot be guaranteed. Any opinions and/or projections expressed herein are solely of the writer and are subject to change without notice. This report under no circumstances is to be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any securities. This report contains forward-looking statements including expressions of belief, expectation, contemplation, estimation and other expressions not relating to historical facts and circumstances. These forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that may cause such statements not to prove accurate. Any recommendations contained in this report may not be suitable for all investors. Any investment recommendations in this report contain a high degree of risk and a prospective investor is encouraged to review in detail the Company’s prospectus and/or other additional information. Any projections or estimates herein made assume certain economic and industry conditions and parameters subject to change. This marketing service was paid 10,000 shares of common stock by a third party to send out this report. The writer and consultants may have a position in the securities mentioned herein and may increase or decrease such positions without notice. They may also actively trade in the securities mentioned herein. for removal from this list please reply with REMOVE as the subject to remove@stockinfonews.com From sb154917@wolmail.nl Wed Oct 3 17:01:52 2001 From: sb154917@wolmail.nl (LTR Consultancy) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:01:52 +0200 Subject: Path 1 Network Technologies Message-ID: <11c001c14c24$b8a5ece0$9bc7f1c3@pieter> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_11BD_01C14C35.7B09C4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable October 2001 October 2001 =20 Fall 2001; Path 1 Network technologies takes the next steps =20 "from trials to generating revenue". =20 # When Frederick Cary, became the new CEO of Path 1 Network Technologies = Inc. (PNWK-OTCBB) (press release September 10) PNWK definitely entered a = new era, with the company's focus shifting from doing field-trials only = to actually generating revenue from product-sales, license-fees and = royalties. Interviewed by telephone, Mr Cary clearly expressed his excitement in = Path 1's technology and its ability to generate significant revenues. "I = must tell you that I am thrilled with what I have experienced since my = arrival here. Our technology is superior to anything that I see coming = up in the market place and we have won in trials against some of the = largest companies in the field. Path 1 actually provides real solutions = to difficult video technology issues, and we do so today while others = are still talking about their future concepts. I have every reason to = believe that we will continue to impress our corporate partners and = drive our technology in the fields of real time, long haul delivery of = broadcast video, IP based Video-On-Demand products, enhanced video = conferencing, superior quality video security, and advanced chip = designs. I expect that we will continue to see quarter by quarter = increases in revenue and additional announcements of significant = customers in the near term" =20 # Robert Packer, Co-founder and former CTO of Packeteer (PKTR-Nasdaq), = joining Path 1, as a member of the Board of Directors (press release = October 1), provides further substance to this drive towards building a = fundamentally strong customer-and revenue-base. =20 The company's strategy is to focus on selling product to corporations, = such as telecommunications carriers and TV Networks, who are directly = involved in the transmission of broadcast quality video (or MPEG) over = IP networks, including the Internet. PNWK is the only company that has = enabled Tier 1 carriers, such as Enron (ENE-NYSE) and British Telecom = (BTY-NYSE), to transfer MPEG 2-video live over IP (over long distance; = London (U.K.) to Washington DC and LA-Atlanta-New York) in a real world = scenario. =20 "MPEG over IP is the future", according to Tony Seaton, VP of Corporate = Technology and Standards at Turner Broadcasting Systems Inc. "In terms = of MPEG over IP in general, we are very close to seeing it, in the next = 12 months, as a marketable solution from the carriers and hardware = companies" . =20 Why is IP so important ? =20 " The broadcast industry is focussed on getting away from satellite = distribution for the cost savings" and "ATM is ok for now, but it is not = that desirable going forward for overhead reasons" said Yankee Group = analyst Ryan Jones. "Doing live video over IP with all the advantages in = terms of reduced costs, interoperability and guaranteed Quality of = Service (QoS) that is the goldmine", (quotes were taken from TV Technology Magazine, September 5. 2001). =20 The benefits to both content providers and operators are obvious; the = immense annual cost savings (up to 80%) with regard to the actual = transmission of the video-signals and the ability to finally being able = to generate substantial revenue from new, commercially viable services = such as video-on-demand, video-conferencing and distant-(or e-)learning. =20 Path 1 Announces successful launch of Breakthrough VOD-over_IP Solution (press release September 14 and 17) At the International Broadcasting Convention (IBC), Barconet = (BARN-Euronext), introduced its new Video on Demand system over IP, = highlighting a video gateway (iMUX) that was jointly developed by Path 1 = and Barconet. This implies the coming to market of Path 1's first = commercial product (royalty $500/unit). At IBC, Barconet received = tremendous interest from cable companies around the world. =20 Path 1 lifts videoconference to a new level (press release September 26) Path 1 announced the EL 1000, a stream-conditioning gateway, that = dramatically improves the performance of IP Videoconferencing systems. = The product was put to test by linking various cross-country business = campuses using off-the-shelf videoconferencing systems. The EL 1000 = takes existing technologies and significantly improves real time video = quality, resulting in a smooth and dynamic interactive session. Path 1 = is currently working with a very large consulting and systems = integration company to asses video-over-IP solutions for corporate = e-learning and educational institution applications. =20 BT North America has been evaluating the performance of Path 1's IP = video gateway (TV Technology September 5) BT North America has been evaluating the performance of Path 1's IP = video gateway (PG1) in a trial which started in late April on the BT = fiber link between London and Washington D.C.. Encapsulated feeds from = the Wimbledon tennis matches and the G-8 summit in Italy were both part = of this ongoing trial. Andy Cornell, a systems engineer at BT North = America, who also looked at equipment from others stated " Path 1 is the = best solution I have seen thus far. It not only provides a good ASI = output stream, but it is the only unit I have seen to date that you can = plug in back to back, and get a perfect transport stream". However, packet loss is still an unresolved issue, due to the reliance = on 100 percent overhead. This situation will be addressed in a product = update scheduled for release in mid-October. The updated version of the = IP-gateway will be released as a commercial product, which will be sold = to both the telecommunication (carriers)- and broadcasting industry.=20 =20 Path 1 names new board members and advances nasdaq smallcap (press release October 1) With the appointment of two new members to the Board of Directors, Path = 1 also announced its intention to resubmit its application for a Nasdaq = Smallcap Market. =20 The recent articles in TV Technology (September) and Broadcast = Engineering Magazine (June and August) with regard to Path 1, clearly = show that Path 1 is rapidly becoming a "known entity" in the industry. Another good example is the fact that BTExact made numerous references = to Path 1 during its presentation of a white paper (Quality of Service = Matters, real time video in a world of packets) at IBC in September. =20 =20 Company website: http://www.path1.net =20 By Pieter van Meel , LTR Consultancy, ltr@bart.nl =20 ------=_NextPart_000_11BD_01C14C35.7B09C4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable October = 2001
 

October=20 2001

 

Fall 2001; Path 1 = Network=20 technologies takes the next steps

 

“from = trials to=20 generating revenue”.

 

# When Frederick Cary, became the new CEO of = Path 1=20 Network Technologies Inc. (PNWK-OTCBB) (press release September 10) = PNWK=20 definitely entered a new era, with the company’s focus shifting = from doing=20 field-trials only to actually generating revenue from product-sales,=20 license-fees and royalties.

Interviewed by telephone, Mr Cary clearly = expressed his=20 excitement in Path 1’s technology and its ability to generate = significant=20 revenues. “I must tell you=20 that I am thrilled with what I have experienced since my arrival here. = Our=20 technology is superior to anything that I see coming up in the market = place and=20 we have won in trials against some of the largest companies in the = field. Path 1=20 actually provides real solutions to difficult video technology issues, = and we do=20 so today while others are still talking about their future concepts. I = have=20 every reason to believe that we will continue to impress our corporate = partners=20 and drive our technology in the fields of real time, long haul delivery = of=20 broadcast video, IP based Video-On-Demand products, enhanced video = conferencing,=20 superior quality video security, and advanced chip designs. I expect = that we=20 will continue to see quarter by quarter increases in revenue and = additional=20 announcements of significant customers in the near=20 term”

 

# Robert Packer, Co-founder and former CTO of = Packeteer=20 (PKTR-Nasdaq), joining Path 1, as a member of the Board of Directors=20 (press release October = 1),=20 provides further substance to this drive towards building a = fundamentally strong=20  customer-and=20 revenue-base.

 

The company’s strategy is to focus on = selling product to=20 corporations, such as telecommunications carriers and TV Networks, who = are=20 directly involved in the transmission of broadcast quality video (or = MPEG) over=20 IP networks, including the Internet. PNWK is the only company that has = enabled=20 Tier 1 carriers, such as Enron (ENE-NYSE) and British Telecom = (BTY-NYSE), to=20 transfer MPEG 2-video live over IP (over long distance; London (U.K.) to = Washington DC and LA-Atlanta-New York) in a real world=20 scenario.

 

“MPEG over IP is the = future”,=20 according to Tony Seaton, VP of = Corporate=20 Technology and Standards at Turner Broadcasting Systems Inc. “In terms of MPEG over IP in general, we are very = close to=20 seeing it, in the next 12 months, as a marketable solution from the = carriers and=20 hardware companies” .

 

Why is IP so important ?

 

“ The broadcast industry is focussed on getting away = from=20 satellite distribution for the cost savings” and = “ATM is ok for now, but it is = not that=20 desirable going forward for overhead reasons” = said Yankee Group analyst Ryan = Jones.=20 “Doing live video = over IP with all=20 the advantages in terms of reduced costs, interoperability and = guaranteed=20 Quality of Service (QoS) that is the = goldmine”,

(quotes=20 were taken from TV Technology Magazine, September 5.=20 2001).

 

The benefits to both content providers and = operators are=20 obvious; the immense annual cost savings (up to 80%) with regard to the = actual=20 transmission of the video-signals and the ability to finally being able = to=20 generate substantial revenue from new, commercially viable services such = as=20 video-on-demand, video-conferencing and distant-(or=20 e-)learning.

 

Path 1 Announces successful launch of = Breakthrough=20 VOD-over_IP Solution

(press release=20 September 14 and 17)

At the International Broadcasting Convention = (IBC),=20 Barconet (BARN-Euronext), introduced its new Video on Demand system over = IP,=20 highlighting a video gateway (iMUX) that was jointly developed by Path 1 = and=20 Barconet. This implies the coming to market of Path 1’s first = commercial product=20 (royalty $500/unit). At IBC, Barconet received tremendous interest from = cable=20 companies around the world.

 

Path 1 lifts videoconference to a new=20 level

(press = release=20 September 26)

Path 1 announced the EL 1000, a = stream-conditioning=20 gateway, that dramatically improves the performance of IP = Videoconferencing=20 systems. The product was put to test by linking various cross-country = business=20 campuses using off-the-shelf videoconferencing systems. The EL 1000 = takes=20 existing technologies and significantly improves real time video = quality,=20 resulting in a smooth and dynamic interactive session. Path 1 is = currently=20 working with a very large consulting and systems integration company to = asses=20 video-over-IP solutions for corporate e-learning and educational = institution=20 applications.

 

BT North America has been evaluating the = performance of=20 Path 1’s IP video gateway

(TV = Technology=20 September 5)

BT North America has been evaluating the = performance of=20 Path 1’s IP video gateway (PG1) in a trial which started in late = April on the BT=20 fiber link between London and Washington D.C.. Encapsulated feeds from = the=20 Wimbledon tennis matches and the G-8 summit in Italy were both part of = this=20 ongoing trial. Andy Cornell, a = systems=20 engineer at BT North America, who also looked at equipment = from=20 others stated “ Path 1 = is the=20 best solution I have seen thus far. It not only provides a good ASI = output=20 stream, but it is the only unit I have seen to date that you can plug in = back to=20 back, and get a perfect transport stream”.

However, packet loss is still an unresolved = issue, due=20 to the reliance on 100 percent overhead. This situation will be = addressed in a=20 product update scheduled for release in mid-October. The updated version = of the=20 IP-gateway will be released as a commercial product, which will be sold = to both=20 the telecommunication (carriers)- and broadcasting industry. =

 

Path 1 names new board members and advances = nasdaq=20 smallcap

(press release=20 October 1)

With the appointment of two new members to the = Board of=20 Directors, Path 1 also announced its intention to resubmit its = application for a=20 Nasdaq Smallcap Market.

 

The recent articles in TV Technology = (September) and=20 Broadcast Engineering Magazine (June and August) with regard to Path 1, = clearly=20 show that Path 1 is rapidly becoming a “known entity” in the = industry.

Another good example is the fact that BTExact = made=20 numerous references to Path 1 during its presentation of a white paper = (Quality=20 of Service Matters, real time video in a world of = packets)=20 at IBC in September.

 

 

Company website: http://www.path1.net

=

 

By Pieter van Meel , LTR Consultancy,  ltr@bart.nl

 

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From louiel@asti.dost.gov.ph Tue Oct 9 02:58:18 2001 From: louiel@asti.dost.gov.ph (Louie Larin) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:58:18 +0800 Subject: Audio Problem References: <200110070044812.SM00443@ultramail> Message-ID: <005701c15065$de5a66b0$43080a0a@mustasa> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C150A8.EC221930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good Day! I'm having a problem with my audio (using vat and rat), all i can = hear in the other end is static and when i've tried to check the bitrate = the outgoing is 16Kbps and the incoming is 32Kbps. what could be a = possible problem? also is there a way i can plug-in my usb camera and use it in vic. = btw, I'm using a freebsd 4.3 machine. hope someone can help me. thanks = in advance -lrl ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ferruh Seckin Dalsal=20 To: mbone@ISI.EDU=20 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 6:56 AM Subject: Jujutsu VISIT US AT http://kumiuchi.topcities.com/Home.htm ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C150A8.EC221930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good Day!
 
    I'm having a problem = with my=20 audio (using vat and rat), all i can hear in the other end is static and = when=20 i've tried to check the bitrate the outgoing is 16Kbps and the incoming = is=20 32Kbps. what could be a possible problem?
 
    also is there a way = i can=20 plug-in my usb camera and use it in vic. btw, I'm using a freebsd 4.3 = machine.=20 hope someone can help me. thanks in advance
 
-lrl
----- Original Message -----
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VISIT US AT http://kumiuchi.topcities= .com/Home.htm ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C150A8.EC221930-- From verba@rol.it Thu Oct 11 20:03:31 2001 From: verba@rol.it (verba@rol.it) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:03:31 +0200 Subject: Verba Volant 11-10-2001 Message-ID: <1002834211@analisi2> Verba Volant 11-10-2001, Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. Logos Translations - www.logostranslations.com _________________ Quotation of the day: Author - Manu Chao English - I am in favour of legalizing all drugs. This is for one reason: I don’t like the mafia Italian - sono favorevole alla legalizzazione di tutta la droga. Questo per un unica ragione: non mi piace la mafia Spanish - soy favorable a la legalización de toda la droga. Por una sola razón: no me gusta la mafia French - le meilleur moyen de lutter contre la mafia ? Légaliser toutes les drogues Portuguese - sou a favor da legalização de todas as drogas. Por uma única razão: não gosto da Máfia Brazilian Portuguese - sou a favor da legalização de todas as drogas. Por uma única razão: não gosto da Máfia German - ich bin für die Legalisierung aller Drogen, und zwar aus einem einzigen Grund: Ich habe nichts für die Mafia übrig Hungarian - én az összes drog legalizálása mellett vagyok. többek között ezért nem szeretem a maffiát Finnish - kannatan kaikkien huumausaineiden laillistamista. Siihen on vain yksi syy: en pidä mafiasta Catalan - estic a favor de legalització de tota droga,només per una raó, no m´agrada la mafia Croatian - ja sam za legalizaciju droge. Iz jedinog razloga što mi se ne svi?a mafija Dutch - ik ben voor de legalisatie van alle drugs. En dit enkel en alleen maar omdat ik het niet voor de maffia heb Emiliano-Romagnolo - par me la legalisazioun ad tota la drouga la è goudibla; la rasoun la è una soula: la mafia, ma me, la è sgudebla Latin - omnium medicamentorum comprobationi faveo. Propter hoc unum: mafia mihi non placet Latvian; Lettish - esmu par visa veida narkotiku legaliz?šanu. Un tam pamat? ir viens iemesls: man nepat?k mafija Polish - jestem za legalizacj? wszystkich narkotyków. I to przez jedyny powód: nie lubi? mafi Romanian - sunt pentru legalizarea tuturor narcoticelor. ?i asta doar dintr-un singur motiv: nu-mi place mafia Slovak - som za legalizáciu všetkých drog. Z jediného dôvodu: nepá?i sa mi mafia Venetian - so' a favore de legalisare tute le droghe. E questa par 'na sola rason: no' me piase la mafia Sicilian - sugnu a favuri d' 'a legalizzazioni di tutti i droghi. E chistu pi 'na sula raggiuni: non mi piaci 'a mafia Flemish - ik ben voor de legalisatie van alle drugs. En dit enkel en alleen maar omdat ik het niet voor de maffia heb Ferrarese - a son d'acord cola legalizazion ad tut'il drog. Al dig pr'un sol motiv: an am pias brisa la mafia _________________ All languages, please click on this link http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.frasiproc.carica?code=418 _________________ Let your friends know about this news letter: give them a subscription to Verba Volant http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant _________________ To unsubscribe from Verba Volant, please follow this link: http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant In the empty field next to unsubscribe, enter the email address shown after "TO:" in the Verba Volant emails. Alternatively, write to the following address: unsubscribe_volant@rol.it, copying the email address shown after "TO:" From Keila - Curitiba - Pr" Olá! Veja meu site pessoal no "Tripod.com.br". Basta clicar no endereço abaixo. GARANTO SER SUI-GENERIS - CLIQUE ABAIXO: http://pastorinha.tripod.com.br/seminarista Mais de 61.000 internautas visitaram a PG., existe 7 Álbuns: Se você quiser, por favor, indique minha Home Page, a outros Internautas. Mais detalhes, se comunique, passe um e-mail, que responderei brevemente. Dentro da Home Page, ao lado das fotos, você poderá saber muito mais sobre mim! Obrigada. e-mail: pastorinha@ieg.com.br Beijos:- Keila - Curitiba - Pr - Podes falar comigo, direto dela. Brevemente uma Carta Aberta. http://pastorinha.tripod.com.br/seminarista "Esta mensagem é enviada com a complacência da nova legislação sobre correio eletrônico, Seção 301, Parágrafo (a) (2) (c) Decreto S. 1618, Título Terceiro aprovado pelo "105º Congresso Base das Normativas Internacionais sobre o SPAM". Este E-mail não poderá ser considerado SPAM quando incluir uma forma de ser removido. Para ser removido de futuros correios, simplesmente responda indicando no Assunto: REMOVER" From mmm3@chan.jp Mon Oct 15 09:24:01 2001 From: mmm3@chan.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCSH5KZhsoQg==?=) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:24:01 +0900 Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJWEla00nJEskSiRDJEYyPCQ1JCQhIxsoQg==?= Message-ID: <200110150824.f9F8O1K12730@ns.chan.jp> $B$3$s$K$A$O!*H~Jf$G$9!##H$J%W%i%$%Y!<%H%S%G%*;#$j$^$7$?!#H~Jf$N%S%G%*M_$7$$?M$O!"H~Jf$N#H#P(B¢$B$A$g$C$H#H$JH~Jf$NIt20(B£$B$r8+$F$M!#L5NA$G8+$l$k$+$i0B?4$7$F$M!#(Bhttp://easter.ne.jp/miholove/ $B$@$h!#Gc$C$F$/$l$??M$O%a%kM'$K$J$j$^$;$s$+!)H~Jf$G$7$?!#(B From T.Henderson@cs.ucl.ac.uk Tue Oct 16 17:18:53 2001 From: T.Henderson@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Tristan Henderson) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:18:53 +0100 Subject: NGC 2001 - Call for participation Message-ID: <12477.1003249133@kylie.cs.ucl.ac.uk> (apologies for multiple copies) Early discounted registration ends this Friday, 19th October - see http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/ngc2001/register.html for details. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- C A L L F O R P A R T I C I P A T I O N 3rd International Workshop on Networked Group Communication (NGC 2001) 7-9 November 2001 UCL, London, UK http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/ngc2001 Organised by UCL and COST 264 in cooperation with ACM SIGCOMM The aim of the Workshop is to allow researchers and practitioners to present the design and implementation techniques for networked group communication. The focus of the Workshop is on multicast and networked group communication, ranging from link layer, through routing, and reliability and traffic control, right up to session and application level control mechanisms, and includes performance analysis and evaluation. This Workshop is the third of this international event in this area. PROGRAMME **Wednesday, 7 November 2001** 08:00-09:30 REGISTRATION 09:30-12:30 TUTORIAL: Source-Specific Multicast Deployment and Development Status Supratik Bhattacharya (Sprint ATL) 12:30-13:30 LUNCH 13:30-16:30 TUTORIAL: Secure Group Communications Lakshminath Dondeti (Nortel Networks) **Thursday, 8 November 2001** 08:00-09:30 REGISTRATION 09:30-10:00 KEYNOTE: Content Networks Paul Evans (Venation) 10:00-10:30 COFFEE BREAK 10:30-12:15 SESSION 1: Application-level (Chair: Laurent Mathy (Lancaster University)) "Latency and user behaviour on a multiplayer game server" Tristan Henderson (University College London) "Application-level Multicast using Content-Addressable Networks" Sylvia Ratnasamy (University of California, Berkeley and ACIRI), Mark Handley (ACIRI), Richard Karp (University of California, Berkeley and ACIRI), Scott Shenker (ACIRI) "Scribe: The design of a large-scale event notification infrastructure" Antony Rowstron (Microsoft Research), Anne-Marie Kermarrec (Microsoft Research), Peter Druschel (Rice University), Miguel Castro (Microsoft Research) 12:15-13:45 LUNCH 13:45-15:15 POSTER SESSION (Chair: Saleem Bhatti (University College London)) 14:45-15:15 COFFEE BREAK 15:15-17:00 SESSION 2: Group Management (Chair: Mark Handley (ACIRI)) "SCAMP: Peer-to-peer lightweight membership service for large-scale group communication" Ayalvadi J. Ganesh (Microsoft Research), Anne-Marie Kermarrec (Microsoft Research), Laurent Massoulie (Microsoft Research) "Extremum Feedback for Very Large Multicast Groups" Joerg Widmer (University of Mannheim), Thomas Fuhrmann (Boston Consulting Group) "An Overlay Tree Building Control Protocol" Laurent Mathy (Lancaster University), Roberto Canonico (University Federico II, Napoli), David Hutchison (Lancaster University) 18:30-??? SOCIAL EVENT: London Eye/T.S. Queen Mary **Friday, 9 November 2001** 08:00-09:30 REGISTRATION 09:30-10:00 INVITED PAPERS (Chair: Huw Oliver (Hewlett-Packard)) 10:00-10:30 COFFEE BREAK 10:30-12:15 SESSION 3: Performance (Chair: Ernst Biersack (Institut Eurécom)) "The Multicast Bandwidth Advantage in Serving a Web Site" Yossi Azar (Tel Aviv University), Meir Feder (Bandwiz and Tel Aviv University), Eyal Lubetzky (Bandwiz), Doron Rajwan (Bandwiz), Nadav Shulman (Bandwiz) STAIR: Practical AIMD Multirate Multicast Congestion Control John W. Byers (Boston University), Gu-In Kwon (Boston University) "Impact of tree structure on retransmission efficiency for TRACK" Anthony Busson (Ecole Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications), Jean-Louis Rougier (Ecole Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications), Daniel Kofman (Ecole Nationale Supérieure des Télécommunications) 12:15-13:45 LUNCH 13:45-15:30 SESSION 4: Security (Chair: Bob Briscoe (BT)) "Framework for Authentication and Access Control of Client-Server Group Communication Systems" Yair Amir (John Hopkins University), Cristina Nita-Rotaru (John Hopkins University), Jonathan R. Stanton (John Hopkins University) "Scalable IP Multicast Sender Access Control for Bi-directional Trees" Ning Wang (University of Surrey), George Pavlou (University of Surrey) "EHBT: An efficient protocol for group key management" Sandro Rafaeli (Lancaster University), Laurent Mathy (Lancaster University), David Hutchison (Lancaster University) 15:30-16:00 COFFEE BREAK 16:00-17:15 SESSION 5: Topology (Chair: Radia Perlman (Sun Microsystems)) "Aggregated Multicast with Inter-Group Tree Sharing" Aiguo Fei (University of California, Los Angeles), Junhong Cui (University of California, Los Angeles), Michalis Faloutsos (University of California, Riverside) "Tree Layout for Internal Network Characterizations in Multicast Networks" Micah Adler (University of Massachusetts), Tian Bu (University of Massachusetts), Ramesh K. Sitaraman (University of Massachusetts), Don Towsley (University of Massachusetts) 17:15-17:30 CLOSING REMARKS From verba@rol.it Thu Oct 18 02:21:29 2001 From: verba@rol.it (verba@rol.it) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 03:21:29 +0200 Subject: Verba Volant del 17-10-01 Message-ID: <1003375289@web2bk.logos.it> Verba Volant del 17-10-01, This e-mail is sent to 0 subscribers. Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. Logos Translations - www.logostranslations.com _________________ Quotation of the day: Author - M.K. Gandhi http://www.logos.it/bio/m_k_gandhi.html English - live more simply so that others may simply live Italian - vivere più semplicemente così che anche gli altri possano semplicemente vivere Spanish - vive más sencillamente para que otros puedan sencillamente vivir French - vivre plus simplement, pour que les autres puissent simplement vivre Portuguese - vive de forma mais simples para que os outros possam simplesmente viver Brazilian Portuguese - viva com simplicidade, de modo que outros possam simplesmente viver German - führe ein einfacheres Leben, damit andere einfach leben können Finnish - elä yksinkertaisemmin, jotta muutkin voivat yksinkertaisesti elää Catalan - viure més simplement, ixí com altres poden simplement viure Croatian - živjeti najjednostavnije tako da i drugi mogu jednostavno živjeti Czech - žít prosteji, aby jiní mohli proste žít Dutch - eenvoudiger leven, zodat de anderen eenvoudigweg kunnen leven Emiliano-Romagnolo - fe' na voida piò castigheda, ad modi ch'enca un elter a posa camper Latin - modestius vivamus ita ut et ceteri modeste vivere possint Latvian; Lettish - dzivo vienkaršak, lai citi varetu vienkarši dzivot Polish - zyc jak najprosciej tak aby inni mogli po prostu zyc Romanian - cauta sa traiesti cât mai simplu ca si altii sa poata trai simplu Slovak - žit jednoduchšie tak, aby aj iní mohli jednoducho žit Venetian - vivare in maniera più senplice de modo che anca i altri possa senplicemente vivare Sicilian - campari cchiù semplicementi, in modu ca l'autri ponnu semplicementi campari Flemish - eenvoudiger leven doet eenvoudigweg leven Ferrarese - vivar più chiet, acsì c'anca i altar i pòsa chieti vivar _________________ All languages, please click on this link http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.frasiproc.carica?code=424 _________________ To unsubscribe from Verba Volant, please follow this link: http://www.rol.it/owa-k/press.rol_ml.verbavolant and write in the empty field next to unsubscribe the email address that you find after "TO:" in the Verba Volant emails alternatively write to the following address: unsubscribe_volant@rol.it always copying the EMAIL address written after "TO:" From verba@rol.it Fri Oct 19 00:26:21 2001 From: verba@rol.it (verba@rol.it) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:26:21 +0200 Subject: Verba Volant del 18-10-01 Message-ID: <1003454781@web2bk.logos.it> Verba Volant del 18-10-01, Every day a new quotation translated into many languages. Logos Translations - www.logostranslations.com _________________ Quotation of the day: Author - Norman Mailer http://www.logos.it/bio/norman_mailer.html English - why do we kill people who have killed other people? To tell other people that killing is wrong? Italian - perché si uccidono le persone che hanno ucciso altre persone? Per dimostrare che le persone non si debbono uccidere? Spanish - por qué matamos a quienes han matado a otros? Para demostrar que matar está mal? French - pourquoi tuer ceux qui ont tué d'autres personnes? Pour démontrer qu'il est interdit de tuer? Portuguese - porque é que matamos aqueles que mataram outras pessoas? Para demonstrar que é errado matar? Brazilian Portuguese - por que matar pessoas que matam outras pessoas? Para demostrar que matar é errado? German - warum tötet man Menschen, die andere Menschen getötet haben? Um zu zeigen, dass man Menschen nicht töten darf? Hungarian - miért öljük meg azokat, akik másokat megöltek? Hogy így demonstráljuk az ölés helytelen voltát? Finnish - miksi surmaamme ihmisen, joka on surmannut toisen? Näyttääksemme, ettei ihmisiä saa surmata? Catalan - per què es matan persones que han matat altres persones? Per demostrar que les persones no es tenen que matar? Croatian - zašto se ubijaju ljudi koji su ubili nekoga? Da bi se dokazalo da ne treba ubijati? Czech - proc zabíjíme lidi, kterí zabili jiné lidi? Abychom naznacili ostatním, že zabíjet se nemá? Dutch - waarom vermoorden we mensen die andere mensen hebben vermoord? Om aan de andere mensen aan te tonen dat moorden fout is? Emiliano-Romagnolo - cum'ela c'a s'amaza dla zenta c'la amazed l'eltra zent? Par fe vida ch'an bsogna amazer unquel? Latin - cur homines qui alios homines necaverunt necantur? Num ad probandum homines necandos non esse? Latvian; Lettish - kadel mes nogalinam cilvekus, kuri ir nogalinajuši citus cilvekus? Lai paraditu citiem cilvekiem, ka nogalinat ir slikti? Polish - dlaczego zabija sie osoby, które zabily innych? Aby pokazac ze nie powinno sie zabijac ludzi? Romanian - pentru ce sunt ucise persoanele care au ucis alte persoane? Pentru a demonstra ca oamenii nu trebuie sa fie ucisi? Slovak - preco zabíjat osoby, ktoré zabili iných? Aby sa ukázalo, že sa nesmú zabíjat ludia? Venetian - parché se copa le persone che ga copà altre persone? Par far vedare che no' se ga da copare le persone? Sicilian - picchì s'ammazzunu 'i cristiani ca 'mmazzunu a autri crisriani? Pi dimustrari ca 'i cristiani non s'ann'ammazzari? Flemish - waarom vermoorden we mensen die andere mensen hebben vermoord? Om aan de andere mensen aan te tonen dat moorden fout is? Ferrarese - parchè a's copa il persòn ch'i a cupà d'altar persòn? Par far vedar ca'ns dev brisa cupar il persòn? Bolognese - parché as mâza dla zänt ch’i an mazè dl’ètra zänt? 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