From mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca Fri Dec 27 23:14:38 2002 From: mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (Michael Richardson) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:14:38 -0500 Subject: [vet-DS] workshops In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:27:38 +0100." <200212241327.gBODRcvP028433@birch.ripe.net> Message-ID: <200212272314.gBRNEcNW032602@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- There was talk in Atlanta about having another workshop either before or after IETF56. i.e. in March. I generally prefer to give my family as much advance notice as possible (not to mention the airlines are cheaper) of what is going on. Bill, can we decide: 1) if we are having one. 2) more clearly, what we will be doing at it. 3) if it should be before or after the IETF. My comments: 1) yes, we should. 2) I think that we should do what Bill initially wanted, which was to setup a test bed that is *out there*. Doing it over IPv6 is fine with me, but we need a lot more advance coordination of things. 3) I do not have a problem with it being before. In fact, we might just find it easiest to help setup the network ourselves so that we can use it. For that reason, arrival on Thursday, with work on Friday/Saturday might be best. I think that keeping the IETF network around longer is harder, than getting it alive earlier. {I wonder if some of the lists might be renamed. I have: dnssec - deployment issues for .nl dnssec \ not sure how these differ dnssec / anymore. } ] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBPgze1YqHRg3pndX9AQF4qwQAoL/CyB7Bkkx/JWLzI+vldluWbXdv2faU ES3nIkQm1e5xA1EDuM3bU+avWAMmso0ABni7Mojp/TMS4U7eHlcZFZm5Ku9zFC8W TpLSB99fbIW88n6Rg29LdMvRTNsPlfhMXtjflbW8dZgCPuV3aKwYaHyXLic5/Knk oY9p65Whf3w= =sVV9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mansaxel@sunet.se Sat Dec 28 10:34:35 2002 From: mansaxel@sunet.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Nilsson?=) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:34:35 +0100 Subject: [vet-DS] workshops In-Reply-To: <200212272314.gBRNEcNW032602@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> References: <200212272314.gBRNEcNW032602@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Message-ID: <244210000.1041071675@localhost> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, December 27, 2002 18:14:38 -0500 Michael Richardson wrote: > 1) yes, we should. Agree. > 2) I think that we should do what Bill initially wanted, which was to > setup a test bed that is *out there*. Doing it over IPv6 is fine > with me, but we need a lot more advance coordination of things. Agree. Jakob and others are setting up a more production-like .SE test, which probably could be integrated. > 3) I do not have a problem with it being before. In fact, we might just > find it easiest to help setup the network ourselves so that we can > use it. For that reason, arrival on Thursday, with work on > Friday/Saturday might be best. > I think that keeping the IETF network around longer is harder, than > getting it alive earlier. Agree. - -- Måns Nilsson Systems Specialist +46 70 681 7204 KTHNOC MN1334-RIPE We're sysadmins. To us, data is a protocol-overhead. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (OpenBSD) iD8DBQE+DX4702/pMZDM1cURAto7AJ9MzPEy1uxlrbd6ctiuyrJbrknsrQCfW8VT zbpGMXnmBmYBUTOrQ7du16c= =b3kD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----